A True Story about Loveland Legend: Matt Hamill
By Ricky Mulvey for Loveland Magazine
“Hamill” is an upcoming film about Loveland Ohio legend Matt Hamill. Matt is currently a fighter in the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) and was a NCAA Division III wrestling champion. The movie was co-written by Eben Kostbar and Joseph McKelheer, stars Russell Harvard, and was directed by Oren Kaplan. The movie is now being produced by the Farrelly Brothers. The Farrelly Brothers have directed well know pictures such as “Dumb and Dumber,” “Fever Pitch,” “There’s Something About Mary,” and produced “The Ringer,” “Me, Myself, and Irene,” & “Shallow Hal.” Besides working on “Hamill” the Farrelly Brothers are currently in the process of making “The Three Stooges” and “Hall Pass” which will star Jenna Fischer and Owen Wilson.
To find out more about “Hamill” I interviewed Eben Kostbar who is the film’s screenwriter and also plays the role of Coach Cantrell in the film. Before Eben got involved with “Hamill” he made the critically acclaimed short film “Karma Café.” The film was praised by the New York Times and won 10 film festivals. Eben has made a guest appearance on the TNT drama “The Unit.” Recently he was featured in the film “Reunion” about the massacre at Columbine High School and produced the thriller “Godspeed”.
Question- What will separate Hamill from other sports or fighting movies that have been made?
Eben Kostbar- I am huge fan of sports and underdog films. In “Hamill” We combine a great story with the sport. A lot of sports movies try to gloss over the story with a lot of cool action scenes. We felt Matt has such a great and inspirational story that we should let the sport be the backdrop. I think “The Blindside” (about football player Michael Oher) is successful because it allowed football to be more in the background and was more about Michael Oher’s story.
Q- How has the UFC reacted to the making of this movie?
EK- I don’t want to quote Dana White or the UFC. They are aware of the movie and have been very supportive of our efforts and Matt. They are letting us shoot for free at one of their fights. They have been good to us.
Q- What sparked your interest in this movie?
EK- Growing up I wrestled and played football. While I was working on a different film at the time, I saw Matt on the reality show The Ultimate Fighter 3. I thought “wow, this guy’s got an interesting story. I wonder if he would be up for making a movie.” After greeting each other on MySpace, we went met up at a wrestling tournament and it took off from there. That was about four years ago.
(Recently Matt Hamill fought Jon Jones in the main event of the Ultimate Fighter 10 finale. After a sweep by Jones, Hamill was battered with punches until Jones started to elbow him in the face. Because that move is illegal, the fight was stopped to see if Matt was able to continue. He wasn’t and Matt was awarded the win by disqualification.)Q- What did you think of Matt’s latest fight against Jon Jones?
EK- The good of the fight was that it showed Matt’s character and he never gave up, even with his injured shoulder. He showed tremendous heart. I think he just had a bad night. He got thrown to the ground, popped out his shoulder. There’s not much you can do in a fight when your shoulder is out of place and you’re thrown to the ground getting shots to the head. I think Matt didn’t show his potential in that fight. Not to take anything away from Jon Jones. He’s a great wrestler and super athletic.
I’ve known Matt the past four years, so I was disappointed in the outcome, that the fight didn’t go his way and that he didn’t put on a better performance. I know he can do better.
Q- Because you wrote the screenplay, tell me what the research process has been like for you, and have you been to Loveland researching the film?
EK- Actually, I have not been to Loveland. We interviewed all the people in Matt’s immediate family that were going to be part of the story. Unfortunately, we were on a shoestring budget, so a lot of our scripts were to hang out with Matt and to see Matt in New York. We spent a lot of time researching people that had been in Matt’s life and hanging out with Matt for almost 3 years. Before that, there were 75 revisions of the script. Matt was a big part of that process to make sure that it was authentic and as real as possible. One of the first things when I met Matt was I gave my word that I’m not going to film this movie unless you are happy with the script. Movies have to take liberties and change things here and there, but we wanted the heart of the story to be as accurate as possible.
Q- The other movie that you have written was a short called Karma Café. Please tell me the difference between writing a full length film and a short movie?
EK- There is a lot of differences. In a short film, people think it is kind of easy to make because it is only a short amount of time. You still have to put the beginning, middle and end of a story in a small time frame. The challenges of a feature are making a story that is intriguing in one and a half or 2 hours and developing all the characters. I would say that the biggest challenge of Hamill for us was that we were limited with a small budget and a sports film. Since we were on a limited budget, we were really focused that it was really quality. Money was definitely an issue.
Q- There has been controversy making this film you were originally supposed to play Matt, would you address that?
EK- I would say that there was controversy in the beginning when we started the film. I started wrestling, I got to know Matt, and I grew up as an actor. I thought it would be a good challenge for me to play this part. When I approached Matt, we knew each other at that point. He said “yeah, you know me better than anybody, you know how to wrestle, and you kind of look like me. I think that would be a great idea.” But after the controversy came out, I was taking a lot of time getting to know the deaf culture, I realized that looking at the bigger scale of things. We were really trying to make a movie that would make a difference to the deaf community - and with them. I didn’t want to be selfish and play the role. I put myself in their position, and said, you know what, there will be other roles for me. I think it is more important to give up this role to let someone who is deaf play this role. It is hard for deaf actors to get roles in movies, the jobs are so far and few between. Matt and I sat down and talked about it. We decided to go that route. It was hard at the time because at that time we had another production company wanting to come on board to give us more money to produce this film and in exchange they wanted a bigger name actor to play Matt Hamill. Most named actors are hearing. The truth of the situation is not only me stepping out of the role, but also me and my partners saying, "No, we are going to hire a deaf actor for the role." We turned down a lot of potential deals to make sure that the deaf community was put in, and to make sure we were hopefully doing something that was special. It’s going to pay off.
Q- What distributors have shown interest?
EK- We are not at that point yet. Right now we are still in post-production and editing the film. The plan is, like most independent films - we are going to take it to a film festival, and after that, we are going to sit down with different distribution companies and hope to get a good deal. The good news is that some people are on board now. We partnered up with 5th Year Productions. Peter Farrelly and Bobby Farrelly, also known as the Farrelly Brothers, are the two people now involved. Their connections are going to help us.
Q- What is the most memorable moment making the film?
EK- Oh wow, the most memorable, was shooting at RIT. Which is Rochester Institute of Technology. For most people that aren’t aware, there is a big deaf school within RIT that is called National Technical Institute for the Deaf. It is special for two reasons. It’s Matt’s Alma Mater and it helps to feel what it was like to be in Matt’s shoes. We met so many great and wonderful people in the administration and the students there. When making a movie about the deaf, you are surrounded by the culture. For a hearing person, it is kind of weird to be in an environment that you have deaf people around and really feel for what it is like.
Q- Do you have an estimate when the movie will be done and in the theaters?
EK- I would say the end of the year is realistic.
Q- I saw that you are working on another film called Godspeed, can you tell me what that is about?
EK- It is going to be in theaters in a few months in selected cities and is out on DVD. It’s a different type of film. My partner and I own a production company, called Film Harvest, which produced the feature. It’s a redemption story about a guy who visits the family and through a series of events, he finds himself. It was shot in Alaska and it’s pretty good.
Q- A central part of "Hamill" is a big UFC fight of Matt’s? Who is he actually fighting?
EK- Basically, it is about him growing up and a culmination of him winning - being the first deaf person to win a UFC contest and an NCAA wrestling championship. There is a fight in the picture, and the fighter we have is Dan Henderson. However we’re not sure if that is going to end up on the cutting room floor or not.
Q- What else would you like to say that has not been addressed?
EK- The goal of the film is, we have deaf people and hearing people in the audience at the same time to watch this movie. We think it is going to be really cool. Everything is going to be subtitled. It’s going to be Matt growing up in Loveland Ohio in a hearing world, and deaf people are going to be doing what they normally do, watching the subtitles. Matt goes to RIT, gets exposed to deaf culture and starts to learn sign language. Then, the hearing will be forced to read subtitles. Our goal for this film is to allow the deaf and hearing the chance to enjoy the movie together in theaters. Also, we want to expose the hearing to deaf culture. With Matt's inspiring story we will learn something from it.
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